Cosm Interview

By: editor

We were lucky enough to catch up with UK Hip-Hop artist, Cosm aka Bobby Super! Bournemouth’s very own home grown talent speaks to us about his new mixtape release Aptatude Test, his dislike for social media, the term “selling out”  and why Hip-Hop will never be dead!…

* WARNING! PARENTAL ADVISORY –  Please note that this interview contains explicit content.

Hi Cosm, Thanks for taking the time to speak to us today. How are you?

I’m good. I’ve been up to quite a lot recently trying to squeeze music in-between work or should I say at work, writing on the sly and with my other job using the studio when it’s free.

 

If you could describe Cosm in 3 words what would it be?

Me, myself and eye.

 

How would you describe your sound?

Lately I would describe my sound as laid back for now, still the same boom bap sound but more chilled. On a lyrical level, they’re patterns and clever bits that people may not get on the first listen…but you know, will get eventually. My Sound is laid back and layered, but obviously is dictated by my producer and how he made that beat and what energy was put into it.

 

How did Cosm come about?

I first started in like maybe 2003. I have always loved Hip-Hop. I used to hang around Strictly Beats (R.I.P.) in Bournemouth with DJ Xrated and some of Second To None, who had a huge influence on me with the culture and growing up in general. So I suppose maybe bunking college was worth it, I tried breakin’, never got there, I was always drawing graf and getting drunk and bombin’ with markers. I was writing when Eminem come out, so it was acceptable and it wasn’t….well not in “Backwards Bournemouth”, then I heard Blade and Task Force and it got me into being english over a track so I just practiced and kept it to myself. That was until Dias threw me in at the deep end at the second urban freestyle event at Cagneys in Bournemouth, I got to the final but lost to Dias. Since then…it’s been on!

 

What do you bring that’s different to the thousands upon thousands of other rappers looking for a break?

A break?!?! If music ain’t your life, life gets in the way, it’s commitment and work rate. That’s a perceived idea of how it works, but it might just be luck. I try to be myself, that’s all I can be right? I mean what can any individual person bring to the table? So what I talk about is my version of events of this strange journey we live, simultaneously called “life”.

 

How was your music supported in Bournemouth? Was there any substantial hip-hop crowd there, or was it just a small group of heads?

I mean I THINK it was received well, people have always bigged me up and I’m greatful for that, I’m humble and think about my shit “yea that’s old” in my head or “yea yea I can do better” or “I got some next shit coming” it’s a never ending semi vicious circle.

Bournemouth has always had it’s heads; Second To None, Cut Above Records, us lot and now there’s Kbu, IMR B-Line Records etc and all the fans and the support that comes with the territory. It’s always bigger than you think. There’s a lot of talent by them shores trust me. Hit up a Backyard Boogaloo and you’ll find out.

 

You have now moved to the outskirts of London, do you feel this has impacted any change in your music?

It did, but I had NO influence. There was one point were I was writing Hollow Sun that I just hooked up with Cheebo and I didn’t listen to anyone else.  It was just me and the beats, that album is purely Cosm brains as was Dissonance. When I moved to the outskirts I had no where to record or write but as I got settled everything fell into place. Sometimes you have to put life into perspective. I married my beautiful wife and stopped drinking, so the Cosm that was in Bournemouth is a different animal to the Cosm that’s in front of you…through the head phones.  I’m an adult now…..kinda.

  

It is important to not forget your roots; despite your new change of residency do you still get time to visit Bournemouth?

Man, I visit when I can, work is long. I work weekends, I do youth work in my spare time, so I do visit when I can. I hit a backyard boogaloo and see mates like Murkerz and link with Kbu/Gas. It’s hard though, you have to balance family with friends and music, there’s never enough time. You know, I’m up here but Bournemouth will always be my home!

 

Have you got any plans for any gigs in Bournemouth?

I do have plans and I’m trying to get myself back onstage. There’s a very big gig coming up in Bournemouth but I have been sworn to secrecy. It’s going to be heavy and being a prospective dad I won’t get the chance soon.
 

What is the likelihood of further releases from ‘B-Town All Stars’? 

B-Town All Stars is dead, it was just a tune we threw together.

 

Are there any more plans to do more music with the old crew (Sir mic, Dias etc)?

Me, Mizzle and D aren’t too far away, but far away enough to make it long. I’d love to, I’m sure they would too, but like I said life gets in the way.

 

What is the best thing about playing to a live audience?

The crowd reaction and noise.

 

Do you ever get nervous before shows?

Yes, I suffer a bit from anxiety before hand hence why I used to get stupid drunk. Now I don’t, I just chill. Once you’re on stage the bars are cathartic and you’re there. I always try to take a half hours reflection after the show though.

 

Is all your music about personal experience?

Mostly, a lot of it just falls out of my head after hearing the vibe off a track I have got. With the new project I didn’t allow myself to stop, I would look at one track,  finish it, than immediately vibe to the next and write down whatever was in my head, how ever many words, then marinate and come back to it. Shit worked! The writers block comes and goes though but you’ve got to ride it out and not get stressed other wise nothing’s happening!

 

Who are your Biggest inspirations?

Whoever is producing obviously. Cheebo for example, I’m heavily influenced by that crazy dude and lately Aptatude. Lyrically there’s too many to mention who are known. I will always say your contemporaries are your bigger influence as your striving to compete. So having said that, Mosik, Dias, Sir Mic, Rai Man, Moo… and more but I’m not doing a shout out list.

 

What has been your biggest achievement to date?

Hip-Hop allows you to do a lot of cool stuff, go here and there, do videos, radio, meet interesting people, make a little bit of money if you’re lucky, gain respect from peers. My biggest achievement would have to be inspiring the youngers within the scene locally to push further than I did or even to just pick up a pen. So if I can make a difference and I’m not saying I have already, but that would be my biggest achievement.

 

In your opinion, which is the best song you’ve ever written and why?

My best song was probably Snowblind off the What You Expect? mixtape. It’s about Cocaine, I’m not glorifying it at all. However, in our generation coke is everywhere. It’s normal, a weekend consists of drinking, smoking, shagging and sniff. Don’t get me wrong they’re other drugs that spin out that play a part into people having a wicked night but I wanted to write a track about Cocaine. To me it’s everyday life, it is normal. I wanted to illustrate where this white powder comes from, what it is made of,  who makes it, how it gets here, what it does to people, so that’s what I did. I just wrote about that. I also did a little net vid for it using news clips and myself spitting. Si from B-line recordings shot it and I edited it.

 

What is your favourite lyrical ‘bar’ of all time?

My own bars? There’s only one that stands out. “I’m a nobody / you can say I’m just like you”. I think if you check Hollow Sun or Dissonance particularly There’s A Limit and Blue Sky Lies. They’re some dope patterns and little sleeper lines that get you eventually. Other peoples…off the top of my head “freedom or jail clips inserted / a baby being born the same day my mans murdered, the beginning and end”. NAS has is like. “you were a still born baby/ mother didn’t want you but you were still born” Vast Aire (cannibal ox) Iron Galaxy .

 

Is there anything you want people to gain out of listening to your music?

If they could relate and play the music and enjoy it to the point memories are associated with the music, then that would be ill to me.

 

You have a new mixtape “Aptatude Test” to be released soon, tell us about it?

They’re no collaborations apart from the producer. The mixtape was a test to me , hence the name (Aptatude is the producers name) so I caught the first vibe off the first track to the next, to see what occurred naturally. It is purely for listening pleasure, to rate the flows and bars. The favourite track would have to be Post Card from The Post Code, it is nice. I felt comfortable recording that, I just eased straight into it.

  

Your previous EP’s “Dissonance” and “Bombs Over Bournemouth” were available for free download, will this also be the case for your new mixtape?

Yea this will be out for free, Hollow Sun was dope, me and Cheebs tried charging but nowadays everyone wants something for free. The real heads supported and big ups to them. We dropped Dissonance and it made it more accessible and made it free to get it out there.

 

Who do you rate in the Hip-Hop industry? Who should we check out?

Known heads? I listen to action Bronson. Big Krit is dope I need his album. I rate people like Stormzy, Newham Generals, Skepta, Tempz etc. Freddie Gibbs, Joeybadass, Flatbush Zombies, Dirty Dike, Verb T , Onoe Caponoe, Bishop Nehru, A$AP…anything that Alchemists lends his beats to. Obviously all the old faves are still hustling doing their thing.

Dope locals? you should check out all my crew; KBU, Rai Man, Murkerz , Flawrio, Moo, IMR, Roast Beats and the one to watch has to be Jungle Brown (Mosik, Maear, Ric*) SBTV have been on them and their music is getting a well deserved buzz at the moment, for the real heads.

 

What do you say, to those people who say Hip-Hop is “dead”?

Hip-Hop wasn’t ever dead, it can’t be! It’s practiced all over the world by millions of people in various disciplines. It’s a huge success hence why people have twisted its ethics from positivity and empowerment into selling things to people that don’t know any better. That is the way of the world, it’s a shame but real heads know. Also, Hip-Hop has evolved into many different things for different people, at least nowadays the trappers admit what they make is rap music or trap music…drug music. It’s a million miles removed from New York in the 1970s or 80s. I think “sell out” is a played out phrase to be honest, if you’re in a position where a label owns you to make money, you have to pander to the mainstream. If you’re a self made artist and who realised the money is independent, where you can flex your artistic integrity within your own constraints you’re laughing.  If you think of the term sell out in more of a positive term and you are in this industry and you have product and you sell out isn’t that a good thing? You’re supposed to sell out in order to re up and make more music and money. So yea i’d like to sell out shows and CDs and merch. If I was in that position I would make it a popular phrase not a negative one. If you take the term in a derogatory manner where an artist sacrifices his integrity in order to be prostituted by a label then again people should make that a popular phrase, but shouldn’t get it fucked up as they aren’t the same thing. Nowadays the underground IS mainstream, people want X Y and Z grime artists on radio and at festivals and it’s the same with Hip-Hop heads like Joey Badass. He did that remix of “How To Dance” and I don’t even hate on him for it. I think he just thought it was a smooth move to get a nice remix and a notch on the bed post. His album is hard, but I digress. I think Hip-Hop was dead was a phrase used by a generation of older artists, maybe to remove themselves from a newer one. Hip-Hop is a multi billion dollar industry, it sells you cars, drinks, phones, clothes, lifestyles and Prison Terms. It is embedded into society. The debate can go on, I don’t want to go into a one sided diatribe, so I will shut up on that. All I know is Hip-Hop made me the man I am today.

 

Have you any advice, for those who wish to start out in the Hiphop industry?

Music is a hustle, don’t do it half arsed. Make sure you have a plan and network.  Every friend is worth having and be prepared to work hard for what you want. Remember, it’s all about product, mix tapes, videos, merch and getting fucked AFTER the show.

  

Where can we check you out online?

There is a Cosm Facebook page, I think its called Cosm Bobby Super…..or something. I’m terrible with socially networking my shit. I don’t even under-fucking-stand Twitter.  It’s long. I just Band Camp and Sound Cloud to host my shit so then I can post it about.

Band Camp

Facebook

Sound Cloud

 

What is in store for COSM in the near future?

The Aptatude Test, the big gig (that I am sworn to secrecy about) and fatherhood!!!

 

As we come to a close with this interview, do you fancy hooking us up with something exclusive?

Yea, check out this exclusive track; it’s from the new EP.

 

Thank you for your time, is there anything else you would like to add?

Oh yea, watch out for the B-LINE recordings compilation EP out very soon, featuring me and Mosik with what you want. It is at press now so looking forward to that. PEACE!

 

 

 

 

Check out COSM: FacebookSound Cloud, Band Camp

 

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